Bill Would Ban Shotshells Larger Than .410

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*H.R. 127 would ban common types of ammunition, including every shotgun shell larger than .410.

*The bill states: “It shall be unlawful for any person to possess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater.”

*Violations of this ban would result in the imposition of a fine of at least $50,000 and imprisonment of at least 10 years, mandatory penalties not seen in many violent or infamous federal crimes, including torturing someone to death outside the U.S. or committing treason during wartime.

*Hunting whitetail deer with guns would be legally impossible in at least 10 U.S. states if these restrictions went into effect. (Due to certain gun/caliber restrictions etc. in various states. TFG is investigating this point for a future article)

*Innumerable numbers of shotgun shells currently possessed by law-abiding people for lawful purposes would suddenly become contraband.

*As with its ban on shotgun shells, H.R.127’s magazine ban would apply retroactively, affecting items already owned by millions of Americans for lawful purposes, with no compensation for owners forced to relinquish property that was lawful when obtained.

  • H.R. 127 would require the federal government to register some 400 million guns in the span of only 3 months.

  • The bill states that registration information would have to be provided to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive, “in the case of a firearm acquired before the effective date of this section, within 3 months after the effective date of this section.”

There is much more to the bill that we are investigating. What are your thoughts on this bill? Post comments below.

TF&G Staff

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*H.R. 127 would ban common types of ammunition, including every shotgun shell larger than .410.

*The bill states: “It shall be unlawful for any person to possess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater.”

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78 Comments

  1. Peter Jacob says:

    There is a civil war on the horizon and it won’t be Notth vs. South. It will be law abiding citizens who believe in their inalienable rights contained within the Constitution vs. those who attempt to take these rights away. If you think the siege on the Capitol was scary wait until 100 million Americans take to the street to fight for their rights. This has gone too far and these elected politicians are pushing everyone’s backs against the wall so the only response will be an uprising. They forced it upon the American people.

    • Randy says:

      America is socialist screwed the freaks have finally used everyone who hates whites and USA together even before they new they were allies ,now America is over run over drawn and under gunned ,we will fight back but against our goverment who has p,Agnes and helicopters ets and 40,000 troops in a 20 minute time is gonna be hard to beat with shotguns and deer rifles ,

      • George says:

        You realize at least 80% of the military is conservative right ?

      • Jnillum says:

        And the liberal socialist democrats want armed protection while they want our guns taken away //
        Just waiting for Texas and okla to say screw it — okla is now a 2nd amendment sanctuary state – and trying hard to get the NRA here /// just waiting for the Texas governor to tell Biden’s circle of jerks that Texas will secure it’s border and call out the guard to support border guards

        • William F. S. says:

          Jnillum, You are exactly right. We have allowed the Democrats to become the “Ruling Class”. While they sit there in their well fortified, well guarded offices and homes, they have opened the borders to all sorts of illegal aliens from around the world while they attempt to take our guns away so we cannot defend ourselves. Enough is enough! We must get rid of these hypocrites!

    • William F. S. says:

      Peter, Unfortunately, you are 100% correct. I am locked and loaded! We have to get rid of these people. It appears they will not vote for term limits on themselves and it is now questionable whether our votes at the ballot box count any more!

    • Marsh says:

      What is she trying to do if she don’t like it here don’t let the door hit you on your way out in fact I will hold the door open .I am a Viet nam Veterans it will be a cold day in hell if any one takes my guns and ammo ,lady you need to get a life. If you want to live in the U.S.A. Get the hell out

    • Russman says:

      Very true. I think the same law should apply yo congress. If they lie 50k fine and 10 years in prison.

    • RCM says:

      Unfortunately, I must agree. I ‘m afraid we are headed for a devastating difference of opinion with those who think we are their little dollhouse figures to play with.

  2. J. Leftwich says:

    In the strongest way possible I am very concerned about this proposed legislation. This bill cannot be allowed to move forward. Do the words “shall not be infringed” mean nothing them. I am getting tired of this constant effort to make criminals out of law abiding citizens. Thank you for your efforts to get the word out to everyone.

    • William F. S. says:

      J. Leftwich , I deeply share your concerns. The problem is these elitist Democratic Politicians don’t care about the Constitution nor do they care about the will of the people. They are just in it to enrich themselves.

      • David Gifford says:

        I can’t imagine even a stupid democrat would vote for this bill.If this passes hang on?

      • Erica says:

        If The Republicans cared about the Constitution they would of found trump guilty of starting a insurrection we do need gun control, personally the bill is going in the Wrong direction 3 months to register 400 million fire arms is ridiculous banning every gauge except 410 is again ridiculous

        • Alton says:

          Your as crazy as these nut job democrats.

          • Jerry E says:

            This ridiculous and most idiotic liberal nut case is without a damn doubt wanting to push a law that would create a devastating American uprising not seen since the civil war…

        • Jaime says:

          * yawn *

        • William F. S. says:

          Erica, You are entitled to your own opinion on the Republicans but you are not entitled to change the facts. The facts are that the Democrats rammed the impeachment through the house without a real trial, and without calling any witnesses. The truth is Nancy Pelosi hates Donald Trump. This entire impeachment debacle was purely a political act. Having said that, I am glad to you are sort of in support of the Second Amendment. I hope you have a great weekend!

        • Mac says:

          You still think Trump started an insurrection?? Trump requested 10,000 Troops to “keep the peace” and Pelosi refused. The Capital Police opened the gates to let people in and took selfie’s with them. So who was REALLY behind the insurrection?? It wasn’t Trump!! Look past what the media is selling and get the facts.

        • ken wayne says:

          If the Democrats cared about the Constitution they would not have elected all the far left socialist’s to office. President VP House and Senate now in the hands of the Socialist Party.

  3. Randall Coon Sr says:

    Just another attempt to put themselves in a position of control! Once again elected officials are representing themselves and their idealism’s with no regard for the people they supposedly “represent!”
    We, “The People” must stop this insanity!

    • Russman says:

      The real terrorists have taken over or government. At least there is a fence around them. We just need the military to not let them out. They all need to be jailed for their lies and communist behavior.

      • William F. S. says:

        Russman, You are correct. By the way, what hypocrites they are for building a fence around the “Peoples House” to protect themselves but shutting down construction of the border wall that would protect the American people! We must vote them out!

    • John Brown says:

      If they are allowed to skew any part of the 2nd amendment, the door will be open to change any parts of any ammendment, probably attacking the 1st and the 4th, then moving on to the rest of those pesky rules that keep the 22nd amendment in place. When that happens, the 13th is out the window. The king’s slaves will have been captured.

  4. Don says:

    This is ridiculous. I have hunted for nearly 50yrs although not as hard core anymore, I still enjoy an occasional hunt and sporting clays. I have property that is overrun with an ever increasing population of hogs and frequently shoot them.

    Ms Lee if your goal is to ruin small businesses and endanger more people your proposal will do just that. Perhaps you are willing to fund all of the hardworking folks whom are associated with the sport and/or security of this nation but I doubt it. You will be the first person to cry for help and when help doesn’t come because no one cares so don’t cry on our shoulders.

    You must have no idea how hard people are working and the effects of COVID has had on small business. It is obvious you are completely out of touch with reality with what you have proposed. People aren’t opposed to revisions but this is simply stupid and written by someone who has no idea what they are talking about nor have they ever had any experience in the field. Did you know that steak your are eating comes from a cow? I’ll bet you probably haven’t made that giant leap yet. This is a perfect example why people are so disgusted with lawmakers, as you just want to throw some words on a piece of paper in an effort to justify your job without any real concern for what you are doing so that lobbyist will fatten your wallet to promote their cause. Lets look at what happens when or if your legislation is passed. Here are few examples of what this means.

    Who wants to buy hunting dogs if there is no sport? Who is going to want a trained bird dog if you can’t buy ammo? What are the small sporting goods stores live on if guns and ammo are banned? Who is going to bail out all of the sporting clubs if the ammo is banned? What about the land owners who make a sizable income from leasing their property for hunting? How do they pay their bills? Ammo and firearm companies will go bankrupt and many people will lose their jobs. Sales forces throughout the county will be cut. Landlords will have increasing vacancies. Do you get it now,? This legislation hurts everyone and no one in this county wants this!

    We live in the land of the free so stop waistline time and resources on half-baked legislation. If you really want to do something about it then enforce the laws already on the books and make fair and reasonable changes that don’t cripple the economy.

    I could go on but Ms Lee you have already wasted enough of my time!

    • William says:

      Don, SJL is clueless. Remember, she thinks we already put a man on Mars!

      • Russman says:

        Yeah she is clueless. She was the same one that said an ar15 takes a 50 cal bullet. She doesn’t know a thing about guns. Funny how many stupid people are running our country because other stupid people vote them in. ..or Is it they cheet there way in?

    • Russman says:

      Don’t forget all us hunting folks pay for stamps etc. to fund wildlife preservation too. And we will no longer will be sending our money there or to any campaign funds. They are cutting their own throats.

    • Bob Schaffer says:

      Right on sir. An addition that she fails to see is all the tax money that pays for parks and forestry. Without the american hunter the parks and wildlife preserves close. The DNR is no longer needed. There won’t be any funds to pay them.
      I agree with you in that if she doesn’t like it here she could find an island somewhere so she can be the only person on it. Then she can pass any law she wants.

  5. Don says:

    I’m sure their are just as many Democrats,as republicans with guns and ammo. When will the democrats realize their guns and ammo will be confiscated also, and maybe fined and be felons. Wake up and stop voting these lunatics time after time

  6. Jerry L Schuetz Jr says:

    This sounds like tje Nazi party did before World War II. Our politicians if bill is passed, will raid every registered gun owner’s home and take away they guns. This is another way to void our constitutional rights to bear arms.
    I did not sever 20 years defending this country to have my rights to bear arms taken away.
    I wish individuals would read the political parties philosophy. Then vote for the party individual. Not for the popular individual.
    Which individual is sponsoring the bill and what party does the individual belong.

    • Russman says:

      Jerry is right. My great grand father, grandfather and my father all fought for this country and our freedom. If we let these pukes ruin our country all our fathers fought for would be lost and it would dishonor them all. I won’t let that happen. I love them all and this country. God bless their souls and our country.

      • William F. S. says:

        Russman, A heart felt “Thank You” to your family for their service to our country!

  7. Cris says:

    I honestly believe it is long past time to secede from the union. These libtards are tearing this country apart and if Texas must stand alone, then so be it.

    • William F. S. says:

      Chris, Amen brother!

    • Bill says:

      Seceding would not rid ourselves of SJL! Supporting existing laws is not popular. What is is to try and propose something more detrimental and bizarre than those before you. I’m not worried I still know how to did a punji pit and can learn about IED’s etc

  8. Henry says:

    Perhaps they should simply eliminate the Bill of Rights. Perhaps daily public executions of citizens to teach a lesson. Welcome to Natzi Germany.

    • William F. S. says:

      Henry, If they could eliminate the Bill Of Rights, they would! We must rid our government of these Nazis!

  9. Davi says:

    How far is to far. They push, we fall back, they take and we do nothing. How many of our rights are violated before it becomes wrong? One? Ten? All? The American people are the 99% what is it going to take to act like it?

    • William F. S. says:

      Davi, We are beyond too far. Now that Bidumb and Harass and the Democrats are in complete control of the government we are screwed! This is just the beginning! It is past time we start fighting back by whatever means necessary!

  10. hook says:

    I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

    • William F. S. says:

      Hook, They all lied when they took their oaths of office. Period!

    • John Iwanyszyn says:

      The Democrats as they are now are the subversives, trying to undermine the constitution. These people are the enemy of our way of life. How dare they even suggest we change. They are other than Americans. They are the evil that encompasses all that is not american. God Bless America and may he eliminate this scourge from our country.

    • Farron Sibley says:

      I took that oath,I’m a disabled vet. To me that oath is for a lifetime. I will defend it till my death.I have taken and acted on all lawful orders, but we the people don’t have a legal president now.biden,harris,and the democrats stole the election from President Trump,so I’ll not be taking orders from them. If they want to go to war,bring it on.

      • William F. S. says:

        Farron, Thank you for your service to our country. I promise I am with you in this fight, if it comes to that!

    • My father was in the Pacific during WW 2 on a destroyer he fought for our country, I’m glad he doesn’t have to see what this country has come to.

      • Bill says:

        My father was a bomber pilot flying the “hump” bombing Japan. Two uncles were combat medics in the Korean “Police Action “ and I served 2 1/2 yrs of my 26 yrs total service in RVN. I’m old, disabled and have forgotten a lot of things but the oath I took and how to defend myself and my property are something I’ll ever forget.

  11. H2OS says:

    I agree with peter. law abiding gun owners will take to arms. criminals do not care about firearm restrictions. it will help the criminals pin point a location to steal firearms if guns have to be registered. she is only one of Biden’s henchman!!!

  12. Van Nguyen says:

    American become socialists country .

  13. Robert says:

    Here’s another perfect example of people who know absolutely nothing about firearms or hunting trying to regulate both and its about as ignorant as thinking that people don’t have a given right to purse their own personal freedom and happiness ( which the Constitution also gives us the right to do); but they’re saying this is okay from druggies to do because illegal drugs make them happy/high- but what about our citizens rights to be protected from drugged out people on the highways?
    Second Amendment is what deterred Russia from planning an invasion on America; because they realized that citizens owning guns was more of a threat to their plans than our military would be; because our citizen army would 1000 times for powerful and equally larger than our military, because of the numbers of standing military was greatly reduced after WWII.
    And these are facts that can be confirmed, if people will learn the true history of America, which schools no longer teach.
    For the record, I am a registered Democrat and a gun owner who doesn’t support this type of legislation because no governing body has the power to change our Constitution. And I’m definitely not about to surrender my guns or ammo, just because some idiots in the federal government want to disarm loyal citizens and leave us open to thieves, gangs,drug dealers or the junkies that their drugs have created out of the younger generations of our children and grandchildrens generations.
    Nope ! Before that’ll happen I’ll take the chance of losing my freedom or life, fighting to take back our city’s, towns and neighborhoods from these dregs of society and any one trying to stop us must be dealt with harshly by removing them from public offices and deporting them to a socialist country, since that’s the type of country that they apparently want to live in.
    People of both parties need to wake up and realize that the mega corporations are already in control of our government and its time to return our government representatives to obeying the rights and ideals of the American people and not their corporate masters who are stuffing untaxed money into the pockets of these supposed representatives.
    I pray that God will show the people the path to America’s security and well-being by removing these politicians from office and insuring that they are replaced by average people rather than career politicians who could care less about the safety and happiness of the American people.

    • William F. S. says:

      Robert, Thank you for being a level headed Democrat and a supporter of the Second Amendment. You are the first Democrat I have ever encountered to be either.

    • J.Winney says:

      Now zBiden says all we need to defend our homes is a shotgun. Then this socialist libertarian of the Same political party says we can’t have a 12 gauge the most popular hunting and sporting gauge used. Maybe aunty P can have tea and show her how to amend the bill. Like withdraw it.

    • Rachel says:

      I am part of a family of Democrats and we own guns and use them lawfully and respectfully. We are not planning on giving them up. We are facing more and more violence our country, not all gun violence for sure, but how do we address this violence? More mental health screening, more support for families raising children who are angry? I certainly do not have the answers but I do believe we need to work together. Republicans and Democrats are all Americans who want the best for our country, and working and thinking together rather than bitter fighting will bring better results! Please believe not all Democrats want to take guns away and I will believe not all Republicans believe in crazy conspiracy theories. I am not in favour of this bill!

  14. Sheep Dog says:

    When Guns Are Outlawed, I Will be a Outlaw. What will the Government do when a 100 million Outlaws march on DC in a Armed Revolt? Even a 100,000 would be formidable. There are many who own cannons up to 155mm and 3 inch cannons.
    The anti-gun politicians need to be rounded up and sent back to England or China. To stop criminals, execute them, not law abiding citizens who are only trying to survive from the caos.

  15. David says:

    our, the USA congress representatives, need to be knowledgeable, up to date on America and not there on ideas , being pushed by rich , select people who do not have the majority’s will in mind.

  16. Howard says:

    After 50+ years in law enforcement, I must register every firearm?
    Why not go after the criminals, felons with firearms, they will get a slap on the wrist and be on their way to seek a firearm
    Our liberal prosecutors will go after the easy and let the career criminals fly free

  17. gary poss says:

    1776 round 2 bitch!!

  18. John Godsey says:

    I believe a .410 caliber is not a shot gun term.

    • Joe Schmoe says:

      .410 is not a caliber, it is a gauge. The .410 is definitely a shotgun term. If you don’t know anything about guns you should keep your mouth shut, just like Sheila Jackson Lee, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, and so many other idiots who know nothing about guns.

      • DnR says:

        Funny! .410 is indeed a caliber even though it is describing a shotgun… Definition of caliber is the diameter of the projectile, in this case .41 inches. Gauge, is something different altogether. For example, a 20 gauge shotgun, it would take 20 lead balls of a particular diameter to add up to 1 pound. 12 gauge, same idea, 12 lead spheres of that diameter will equal 1 pound.

  19. Nathan Robertson says:

    That is bill shit

  20. ThuTC says:

    SJL may one of the stupidest people I’ve ever heard of. She knows absolutely nothing about guns. “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you are a fool than to open you mouth and remove all doubt.

  21. Michael Winkler says:

    Democrats want to turn LAW Abiding American Citizens into Criminals……

  22. James Lee says:

    Wouldn’t the proposed legislation violate Article I, Section 9, Clause 3 and Article I, Section 10, Clause 1, as well as the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution? One would hope the Supreme Court would enforce these prohibitions.

  23. Larry walters says:

    This “law” will only hurt the poor middle class, cause you know “they” will be exempt, we would not be in position to examine them, vote them out

  24. Some Guy says:

    This bill will never pass! Even if it does it will die in SCOTUS!

    • Russman says:

      We never thought Biden would have gotten in either. Don’t put it past them. We need to all write in and let them know we the people don’t approve of this and whoever doesn’t listen we vote out of office.

  25. Robert ONeal says:

    This is just a classic communist want to take over the country. As long as the Biden administration is running the country, the Constution is in Jeopardy! The election was fixed. President Trump did everything right. I am calling out everyone of you communist bastards, starting with the Biden Administration, to Pelosi, Schumer, and every other Communist in Congress. En clouding the Four Bitches of the appocliss! God Bless America, God Bless President Trump!

  26. John Brown says:

    If they are allowed to skew any part of the 2nd amendment, the door will be open to change any parts of any ammendment, probably attacking the 1st and the 4th, then moving on to the rest of those pesky rules that keep the 22nd amendment in place. When that happens, the 13th is out the window. The king’s slaves will have been captured.

  27. Bill says:

    Where do these people come up with such ridiculous bills? I think everyone in congress,state reps,mayors on up need to all be interviewed by certified psychologists, before being allowed to run for any official job involved in city,state and any U.S. govt. jobs. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! These people have definitely had some bad smoke!!! How about background checks, things seem to get worse and worse everyday!! It all depends on who you know, not what you know!! Grade school education, your qualified !! What’s next.. SQUIRT GUNS, RUBBER BAND FLIPPING ! Women are forced to perform acts to bosses, against their will, husband defends her against perp, husband goes to jail. It all depends on who you know and each covers each other! Over and over. You cover my back, I’ll cover for you!!! I can see how people don’t trust officers! What ever happened to conflict of interest in investigations???don’t take me wrong, not all agencies are like this, but several cases, justice system failed!!! Judges making statements “ I’ll make you an example “ yet worse crimes are committed, and slap on the wrist. This happens to women all around the world!! Like a high school girl in female school bathroom by herself, a large number of boys enter bathroom, she feels threatened, boy refuses to allow her to exit bathroom, so she knees this boy in the groin, she gets SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! If this was your high school daughter, DAD!! What would you do??? This principal needs removed!! Injustice for sure!!! I hope the family sues the he— — out of principal and school district …plus As for the boys(all of them) how proud their parents must be!!!!! As for this female, I wish you well, and I’m proud of your decision to defend yourself!!! You were 100% justified!, I have taught women’s self defense many times. Do me a favor, find where their is a self defense class for women and go!!! You really only need a few techniques to know and practice by yourself in your room, it’s a proven fact, if you haven’t trained your mind what to do, when it comes time to defend yourself, you’ll freeze and become a victim!! TRUE!!! But, I guarantee you, he’ll never approach you again. Only if he has help, then the techniques will still work, 1 technique to each assailant! Worse senerio, the police will be easily able to trace your attacker, through hospital treatments recently after your attack! Once again, I’M VERY PROUD OF YOU!!!

  28. Sandman2 says:

    Caliber refers to bullet size, not shell size. None of the loads in a shotgun shell are close to 50 caliber. Either someone doesn’t know what they are talking about or are using scare tactics.

  29. Ron Zulian says:

    Another attempt at taking a nuclear weapon to promote social engineering and establishing a society where everyone is protected by our powers in charge. They know what’s best for us.
    As we already know…….the attempt at Prohibition worked out real well didn’t it; fantastic govt. program and a HUGH SUCCESS. Shelia Jackson is one of the few totally wacko representatives in congress along with Johnson from Georgia (he questioned Navy personal about the island of Guam flipping upside down) If you don’t vote you get the representation you deserve and you need to pay attention on what your representatives are doing once they are elected.

  30. Jeffrey Dahmler says:

    this fucking cunt needs to be stopped!

  31. Shane says:

    The 9th Amendment specifically prohibits any law that does not comply with the Bill of Rights or Constitution. The 10th Amendment gives power to the states more than what’s been specifically outlined in the COTUS for the Fed Gov’t. This MEANS that WE THE PEOPLE don’t need to fight with arms. We don’t need secession.

    ****WE NEED TO BE ON THE PHONE, THE EMAIL, THE PEN, AND THE DOOR STEP of our state legislators. The governor, the Lt. Gov, the Atty Gen**** We need to let them know that we no longer want them to participate in their partnership with the federal government REGARDLESS of whether we like that person or not! That’s how we got here and how we CAN get out. Our framers set this up as a partnership between states and fed gov’t. Just like a marriage, a partnership DOES NOT work unless both parties are participative.

    It doesn’t matter who is in office if you’re state tells them “No thank you” and doesn’t play. The Fed Gov’t has NO ABILITY to force a state to follow any federal law.

    Why is this so f’n overlooked? Why does everyone get so f’n caught up in “From my cold dead hands…” or “My oath didn’t expire…” For the love of God; that’s EXACTLY what they want! It’s a damn shell game with PsyOps thrown in to get everyone divided so that the New World Order is installed. STOP and THINK! You’re as much a sheep as the idiots who vote for “free money” if you’re talking freedom but not using the ultimate document of freedom; THE CONSTITUTION!